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Useful, but incomplete. Some aspects missed - the following is unorganized - comment field doesn't seem to support better:

1. For (re)building tissues, you need appropriate material at appropriate time. E.g., physiotherapy without protein input in time of regeneration after exercise doesn't seem to rebuild muscle tissue

* If I recall correctly, it seems human organism can't store proteins, or reuse them well (catabole - dismantle - one tissue and build - anabole - another from dismantled material), it seems to need fresh input of amino-acids from digestion.

*This freshly digested also seems to be useful for anabolic processes in quantities of no more than 0,002 of body mass at one time.

* If more protein is imputed (eaten), the excess gets converted to energy reserve (fat).

* It also seems that fast digestible (as advised as optimal by most common dietary advisers) protein food may be suboptimal, because it releases more "building blocks" than can be used for a short time, and would need next input of protein in short time (e.g. after an hour or two). Food that is digested more slowly can release appropriate concentration of necessary for a longer period (so for regeneration for up to 5-7 hours, so you can go to sleep and stay asleep, instead needing to get awake for next 200g of protein - if you are at about 100 kg - every two hours.

2. Micro materials (nutrient) imbalance problem form industrially produced food

* industrially produced food is optimized to maximize profit

* systematic look into agriculture shows that with taking produce away the micro-nutrient balance (in soil, or hydroponic solutions) is lost, because micro-nutrients in the end get into sewers and water recycling plants, and because in high concentrations they can be toxic, ending in the sea

* mostly only macro nutrients (that can measurably add to quantity, and attractive looks of produce) (Nitrogen, Phosphor, Kalium...) are added, not the whole spectrum that was taken away

* foods that used to be traditionally rich in this or that, produced on exhausted soil, get deteriorated; when body used to crave for more of a food that used to be the source for such a micro-nutrient, it needs more of it to get needed quantity; if you eat enough for that, you usually get too much carbohydrates etc. - and get overweight etc.

* body can get deprogrammed to crave for such food with necessary ingredients - e.g. excess hydrocarbons can be too much burden that prevent micro-nutrients to be useful

* food industry tries to program people to be dependent of their products, with flavor enhancers etc., and that affects human ability to chose food for needed ingredients globally

* if you look into it, food industry often removes "unnecessary ingredients" and returns only what is known (or prescribed by law) to be needed, often as (highly priced) food supplements (b vitamin group, after striping grain and rice from everything but carbohydrates (causing beri-beri by polishing rice a century ago - and I see that advertised again; also see Wonderbread - they removed everything from white flour and advertised what they returned, probably still do).

3. Whole foods, natural foods...

* when a food is natural, something grows naturally where it finds what it needs to grow; if something necessary is (or gets) missing, it doesn't grow there (or no more). Agri industry forces it to grow anyway by eliminating rivals and adding enhancers (it's usually cheaper than finding what's missing and how much)

* when a natural organism (or cell) produces some material, it produces the whole aparatus for dealing with it. If it doesn't, it doesn't survive it (or at least not to reproduction of the organism). It's called "the not-survival of un-fitt".

* You can produce pretty much anything in chemical factory, because factory doesn't need to survive it's output to produce (see lead-tetra-ethyl having been produced for about a century). It seem to be the same for genetically engineered cell-factories - they don't seem to be thoroughly tested to be able to survive their products. And it seems to go that way with food industry.

4. recently we (I am teaching sailing after retirement) at the seminar to keep the license current the lecturer spoke about fitness preparation of (competitive) sailors; for people who know sailing, but less of kinesiology, and even after discussing the need for speed, ballance, prevention of damage for successful lifelong such activity, mostly got those people only to the idea of building muscle mass

* there was not a word that for speed and joints damage prevention you don't need only fast and strong pull of the agonistic muscles (and, basiclym sarcomeres), you also need fast relaxation of antagonistic muscles.

* If agonistic (that we want to pull) muscle needs to overpoweer the antagonist that doesn't release as it should (not totally, but exactly properly), and both are developed to be as strong as possible (instead of as needed), the joint (cartilege, ligaments, lubricating fluid...) shall get worn out before time

* health industry shall see business opportunity to repair damaged knees, hips, elbows, shoulders, decalcinated vertebra etc., they probably don't see it in prevention of such damage

5. some of our health problems seem also to be the result of misprograming of our adaptable systems, e.g.

* our bodies abolishes unused, and or unsuccesfull, or harmfull abilities, features; e.g. muscle unused (or that lost it's nerve's function) gets athrophied, etc.

* the patterns of our movements are sometimes called the nerve-muscle pattern

* when muscle changes (damage, disuse for a time - e.g after a pregnancy and bearing a child) you should need rebuild the muscle before doing the familiar activity to prevent deterioration of the nerve pattern (optimized for full strength of muscle) until muscles get restored, otherwise you'll make yourself hard time (or get unable) to get previous abilities

* the program that moves muscles that tension the eye lens to create clear picture is also adaptable in such a way (we studied that to create autofocus for digital cameras). If gets unsuccessfull (poor lighting, distrophy of muscles), with us it gets disprogrammed. That seems the problem with quick deterioration of vision (the eye doesn't get longer or shorter - as we are taught for being the reason for deterioration of vision- that quickly).

* same goes e.g. heart disaritmy (neural network of the heart seems to get disprogrammed).

* both can be seen as pandemies

* health industry sees that as business opportunities selling eyewear and surgical vision corrections, and pacemakers

A kind of a conclusion of this hodge-podge:

* profit might need to get subordinate to survival - it might not be possible; if that is the case we might not survive (as a civilization, and maybe as a species too)

* pragmatically accepting (dismissing thought about) collateral damage to be successful in business might need to get subordinate to general systemic thinking (holistics)

* both general (strategic) and local (micro - and nano etc.) view and thinking are necessary

* good (reliable) communication seem paramount, but there are millions of people trained to deceive for living (advertising, much of the politics... Again, can we (as a civilization, species...) survive collapse of that?

Christi Vlad, do try to feed some of the above to your processor ;-)

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Peter Defty's avatar

Great piece and aligned with other information I've come across....this combines many of the pieces. I would also suggest to add long duration aerobic activity on minimal or no calorie intake as we evolved to be active for long periods of time. Doing a fasted workout after an overnight fast is a great tool for promoting autophagy.

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